233. North Node Aquarius and South Node Leo: 💛 Forecasting Astrology

In this episode, Alison and Arwynne chat about he Lunar Nodes entering Aquarius and Leo, shifting the collective focus towards community, collaboration and future growth while releasing old patterns of ego and recognition.

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SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to the Star Zoology Astrology Podcast. I am your host, Alison Price, and I'm here with my good friend and co-host, Arwen O'Neill.

SPEAKER_01 0:08

Hello, Alison. It's great to be here.

SPEAKER_00 0:10

So nice to have you once more. Now, in this episode, we're going to be talking about the nodal axis changing signs. Yes. So what's going to be happening? So this is going to be on July the 26th, 2026. And what's going to happen is the North Node's going to move into Aquarius. Yep. And the South Node's going to move into Leo.

SPEAKER_01 0:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:31

Yeah. This is a kind of an interesting thing.

SPEAKER_01 0:33

Yeah, it's backwards.

SPEAKER_00 0:35

It's backwards. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:36

And it's not like it's retrograde sometimes. It's always retrograde. It's backwards.

SPEAKER_00 0:40

It's trenders, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:41

So what are the nodes?

SPEAKER_00 0:43

There you go.

SPEAKER_01 0:44

Let's talk about that. So if you look at the you know map of the universe, you have uh not the universe, I'm sorry, the solar system, you have our sun, and then you have all the planets moving around it on the ecliptic, which means the plane by which they picture it like a like a mobile, like a like like on a over a kid's bedroom, and you have the sun in the middle, and you have everything kind of like rotating around it on the same plane, except for Uranus and Pluto, which are incredibly off of the ecliptic, which is weird and fine, and that's okay, and also Eris. But the nodes are kind of like this tilted thing, which are points diagonal to the moon and the sun, and they do this X thing like I'm doing with my hands. Yeah, you just look it up. I I can't describe it on a podcast, but yeah, it's it's basically it's the the motion of the moon around the sun, and then it forms this point mathematically. They're mathematical points, they are not physical planets.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

Okay, yeah, they're points, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:46

So they're they're they're mathematical points, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:50

Right. Yeah. So imagine it like this. Say you've got you've got two hula hoops, and the yellow hula hoop is the sun's and then the white hula hoop is the moon's path around the earth. Yes. And where they intersect, that's where the nodes are.

SPEAKER_01 2:04

Exactly. That's what I meant to say.

SPEAKER_00 2:05

Yeah, yeah. So this is shifting all the time. So we are looking at uh where the moon where the moon's path intersects the sun's path.

SPEAKER_01 2:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:13

And when it's the north node, it's where the moon's going north, and when it's the south node, it's where the moon's going south.

SPEAKER_01 2:19

And the background of the the ecliptic is basically it's it's moving around all of those constellations which make up the the sign. The zodiac. The zodiac. So the zodiac is like this massive, let's pretend it's a huge circle around that. So the the hulloops are moving at an X to those things. Right. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

Oh no, sounds great. But click through to the blog post with us an image. So also all the planets are at an angle, but we're only interested in the moon's um nodes at the moment. So the moon's the moon's path is at five degree angle to the plane of the ecliptic, which is the sun's path. So we've got this five degree give or take a whisker um thing. So the nodes are opposite each other.

SPEAKER_01 3:04

Right, exactly. And so if you have the north node at like, let's say two degrees Scorpio, your south node will always be at two degrees Taurus. Taurus, because it's exactly opposite.

SPEAKER_00 3:15

So this is why the nodes change signs in pairs. Yeah. And how often do they change? About every um well, it takes 18.6 years to transit the whole zodiac. Yeah, and they change signs around every 18 months.

SPEAKER_01 3:29

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's it's not like a generational thing, but they change more often than Mars, for example. Yeah. So yeah, it's between Mars and uh and Jupiter apparently, like a as far as like frequency of change.

SPEAKER_00 3:40

Yeah, so is it just a point? It's not a planet, but we have it's a highly important point, and everybody should be paying attention to it. Yeah. And we're just gonna go over a couple of things here about the nodes, because either you're following us so far or we we lost you 10 minutes ago.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

And also, like if you're into evolutionary astrology, the nodes are hugely important, yeah, evolutionary astrology because they represent and and also um in uh Vedic astrology, they represent uh what is it, uh K2 um Rahu. Rahu, yeah. It's the it's the where you're going evolutionarily versus where you've been.

SPEAKER_00 4:13

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 4:14

You know, so it's the the north node is is what you're moving into, and the south node is what you've already um uh uh mastered. Yeah. Whether you think of that as a past life thing, or whether you think of that as a childhood thing, or whether you think of that as just like the energy of the universe and how we absorb our personalities and blah blah blah, evolution, etc. The north node is where you're moving towards, and the south node is is what you're moving away from. And also that is why the north node in your birth chart tends to be something that you find sort of uncomfortable. For me personally, I have North Node and Capricorn, and I'm like, ah, Capricorn, scary, terrible, responsibility, the CEO, the the And you struggle with that, don't you? I do, yeah. And a lot of people do. I mean, most people that I know, like their North Node is like, what? My mother. North node and Pisces, just like what Pisces, you know?

SPEAKER_00 5:01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. Interesting, yeah. Yeah. So when we're talking about the nodes, you always state the north node, the north nodes per first. So that's where we say we would then say the nodes are in Aquarius Leo. Yeah. Whereas generally, when you're talking about signs, you would say the signs of Leo and Aquarius, because you put them in sequence. But with the nodes, you if you say it that way, we all know what you're talking about. Yes, because the north always comes first. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And we um, because we're talking about the true nodes here, they do wobble, but in generally they go retrograde.

SPEAKER_01 5:33

Yeah, there's some some people use mean nodes. I don't know why anyone would do that, just use the true node.

SPEAKER_00 5:37

Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's a that's opinion. Well, yes, of course, of course. I always use the true node because why wouldn't you? Right. If you're gonna do eclipse work, you need the true node, otherwise you're not gonna have an eclipse is happen at the nose. This is that's another story.

SPEAKER_01 5:52

The exact thing, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 5:54

Yeah, yeah. So let's just have a look at some North Node themes. Cool. I've got a couple of ideas here. So the North Node is also known as the Dragon's Head or Cappa Draconis.

SPEAKER_01 6:05

Yes, just like in uh Game of Thrones. Oh, that's Jacaris. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, yeah, same.

SPEAKER_00 6:12

Same thing. The head at the head of the head of the dragon.

SPEAKER_01 6:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 6:15

So connections to new people are shown through your north node. So wherever your north node is, these new people will be there.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

Cool.

SPEAKER_00 6:21

Meetings, get togethers, and rendezvous are likely to happen around your north node. It's a node. And the north node is concerned with things that occur at a hub, such as computer routers and airports. Ships that pass in the night, it really is that. Yeah. Um, so it's also to do with your future destiny. Um, the north node shows where your current incarnation in this life is. Yes. It suggests your karmic objectives, and the north node is related to consciousness to get there. The north node indicates your destiny, that is the main keyword, destiny, future path, and where you can grow and evolve. So for you, the Capricorn thing is uh Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:02

You're working on it.

SPEAKER_00 7:03

Is that what we're saying? You're working on it.

SPEAKER_01 7:04

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got that that that CEO energy.

SPEAKER_00 7:11

Right, right, right. And then the South Node, just some main themes here. So the South Node is also known as the dragon's tail or Cowder Draconis. Um, the South Node suggests connections with people from your past. So it's the guy you net met last week, it's the cousin you knew 10 years ago, it's previous life people too.

SPEAKER_01 7:32

People you were in a past life, people you knew in a past life. Yeah. Yeah. Things you mastered in a past.

SPEAKER_00 7:38

Old boyfriend, their South Node. Yes. So the South Node indicates things that you already know.

SPEAKER_01 7:45

Right.

SPEAKER_00 7:46

And your South Node shows your past incarnations and therefore past lives, if you're into that. We just mentioned that. And um your past in general. This point is related to unconscious or subconsciousness um automatic uh attitudes. Um and the south note clearly shows your past and your past lives. It's a place where stagnation can take place because you can't move past it.

SPEAKER_01 8:10

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 8:10

So if you I don't know, if you had a boyfriend and you, you know, the one that got away in high school and you're still harping back to Joe.

SPEAKER_01 8:17

Checking his Instagram his new girlfriend. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:23

So that's um, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:26

Get over that south note, so the north node. And natalie, of course, if you've got planets can join your south node, that's going to indicate the person who you're banging on about.

SPEAKER_01 8:35

Like not to get into a total digression, but uh Stephen Forrest, one of our St. Stevens, we've got St. Stephen Arroyo and Saint Stephen Forrest, uh, he did a whole series on uh planets that are square, your nodes. Because if they're square one node, they'll they'll be square in the other node. And uh and there's a whole thing about about how significant that is if you've got planets that are basically because that's that's forming a a a T square in your uh or a trans cross or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 9:02

You can't get past it.

SPEAKER_01 9:03

No, exactly. That'll be like a huge, yeah. It's it's we're doing a thing like a a Jesus on the cross.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

Like that's like a bridge thing.

SPEAKER_01 9:11

Yeah, right, exactly. So that will always be a significant thing that you feel in your chart. And it's one of those things as a consulting astrologer, if you see someone who has a planet square the nodes, mention it because your your client will be like, oh my god, yes.

SPEAKER_00 9:26

They will know about it.

SPEAKER_01 9:28

They'll know and they will tell you stories.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

Yeah, yeah, interesting. Yeah, it absolutely is. Yeah, yeah. So if you click through to the blog post, I've actually put the ingress chart for this nodal ingress, and um, it's on the screen here, what we've got in where in front of us, and it's quite a it's I wouldn't say it's complicated, but it it you can dig deep if you're a Virgo. And uh so what we're having is we've got these two nodes now, um, and I've highlighted them, and they are just moved immediately at 29.59 into the new signs because that's how you want to indicate it. And um, just what Arum was saying, lo and behold, this ingress is squaring Uranus. So, what that means is that Uranus is going to be a theme for this um 18-month period. Yeah, whatever Uranus represents, which is astrology and destruction, destruction, uh the internet, and it's bound to be the AI jazz that's going down.

SPEAKER_01 10:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:22

So because it's square, it's a it's an issue of I can't move forward because I can't release the past, and I I I can't release the past, therefore I can't move move forward to the north.

SPEAKER_01 10:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:31

So you want to go from the south to the north, but when you've got a planet that's squaring, which is what you just said, yeah, you are you are it's like being braced on a bridge, and you're that planet, Uranus, in this particular case, is dominant in this chart. Right.

SPEAKER_01 10:45

It's like one of those seesaws as when you're on a like as a kid and you you you have two similarly sized children on either side, you can tip, tip, tip, tip, tip. But if one kid is like way larger than the other, you're like, you know, yeah, and then if the yeah.

unknown 11:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:01

So so that is interesting because when you look at the ingress chart for nodes, that's what you're looking for. We never look at trines and textiles or any of the others. What you're looking for is conjunctions and oppositions, which are none, and a square.

SPEAKER_01 11:13

Yes, and here we have it. And that will mean that that will never not be one of the most important factors in the chart. If we're looking at a natal chart and there's a square between nodes, it's super important.

SPEAKER_00 11:23

Do you have a square to your nodal axis? Or we're not quite sure. Sorry, I didn't mean to throw that at you at the last minute. I do not. Let me just jump. But um, I can have a quick look at your chart.

SPEAKER_01 11:32

My let me just yeah, you have my chart. Let's do that.

SPEAKER_00 11:35

So we've just pulled up Arwen's chart and she's graciously allowed us to talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 11:40

Always.

SPEAKER_00 11:40

And so do you want to just tell us what we've got connected to your nodal axis there?

SPEAKER_01 11:44

Yeah, so Saturn is uh conjump to my south node. Yes, pretty tightly there. And uh cancer. It is. Yeah. So you've got that there, and um then it's the light house, and it's opposite my north node in the third house, which I always think is a great placement because that just means north node, third house. I'm moving towards communication, it's my destiny. Correct. Blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_00 12:05

But if we also look at that, we we also noticed, uh don't we, Arwen? We noticed that Venus is also square that nodal axis, and so is Pluto.

SPEAKER_01 12:13

Oh, I didn't notice that.

SPEAKER_00 12:14

So they're actually there. We're looking at we're not gonna put Arwen's chart up, but what we're saying is that Venus, and therefore, what are we saying? Love and money. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:24

I do have Venus uh conjunct Pluto, as we know.

SPEAKER_00 12:26

Okay, well then it's this is so interesting because your past understanding of how money works, you're you are it's holding you back forwardly to gaining putting money in your piggy bank. Yeah. And um, well, yeah. I'm sorry I said that.

SPEAKER_01 12:43

Who is that not true? Your past your past idea of how money works is holding you back. I bet it is.

SPEAKER_00 12:50

But awareness is key. Awareness is key. So yeah, so whatever that represents for you, and it's also love as well. Yes, and you know, maybe you're quite happy with the with the status quo. You see, nothing's moving. I am perfectly happy with the status quo in part in terms of love, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:06

Yeah, for any spoiler alert for anyone who isn't just new to the podcast, I have been in a relationship with the same person for 28 years.

SPEAKER_00 13:13

20, she needs a medal.

SPEAKER_01 13:14

A medal, yes, please. Um, money-wise, so yeah, I mean, I think all of our uh ideas about money have changed significantly. It used to be like, oh gosh, it's king, blah, blah, blah. And now it's just like, oh, I pay for everything on my phone.

SPEAKER_00 13:28

And you know, yeah, and then I do, but it's interesting, unless you look, you don't you've got it. Right, exactly. Um, but what we were also saying was that Saturn is conjoined the SAF node.

SPEAKER_01 13:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 13:40

So there's a lot to be said there. We don't we don't need to go into it now. I mean, go ahead. It's well, what are we, you know, if you Saturn represents your father in the past and all of this sort of thing, that has to be dealt with for moving forward. And I think you have done a good job of that.

SPEAKER_01 13:54

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_00 13:55

And uh moving forward, but it's an awareness thing. But if you're you if you were younger, oh my gosh, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 14:01

Like being younger and and having issues.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

And by younger, I mean under 25. Yeah, that's what we're calling young.

SPEAKER_01 14:07

In my 50s, etc. But yeah, of course I went through a phase where I was just like, no, I want to be, you know, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 14:13

Yeah, yeah. So that's interesting. So even though we've got the the um ingress chart is showing where have I put it? The ingress chart is showing Uranus is there for everybody now. Yes, we've got this Uranus flavor to this nodal shift. So you're not just looking at, oh, the north node's gone into Aquarius. That's not the end of the story. And and who rules Aquarius? Our friend Uranus. Yeah. Right? Yeah. So moving forward, it's gotta be it's gotta be this 18-month window.

SPEAKER_01 14:42

So there's this, oh go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 14:44

Well, what I was gonna say, it has to do with AI and computers and how well even the Pope's got something to say about it now, you know. And all of these anthropic and and whatnot.

SPEAKER_01 14:55

Right. I mean, and so I mean, we think of Aquarius is uh it's optimistic, it's future-oriented, it's about humanity, but at the same time, Uranus is about disruption, it's about it's about uh lightning striking. It's not all positive because when lightning strikes, it can burn things. Yeah, yeah, and anytime there's there's uh future-oriented whatever there are people left behind, which is kind of the dichotomy of Aquarius. It's that like that that uranium dichotomy where yes, it's progress. But you know, if you look back a hundred years and and people said, Oh, the car, etc. etc. Well, we're gonna put all these like uh you know, horse-drawn carriage um exactly the people who you know worked the carriages. Well, yeah, they're they'll be on work. Yeah, we will have fewer horses in the future, you know. And we're two years later, there's none left. Well, I mean, we have horses, but they're not working. No, no, no. They they have different jobs. We've retrained them. And the horses have been re-re-educated.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

Exactly. Exactly. And if we look at uh that would be uh repres with Uranus representing computers and and AI and whatnot. If we look at Uranus and Aquarius there as astrology, yeah, um, what are we saying? That the next 18 months, uh, is astrology going to have a resurgence? Maybe, maybe not. Um, astrologers who are working, um, are you going up against AI? Because if you want a horoscope, Chat GPT will knock one out in five minutes, but it's a load of rubbish. So you've got all that as well. And I think also the new age symbolism that astrology is, the language that it is, yeah, will um be reinforced during this 18-month period. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:38

And here's an interesting little tidbit. I don't know who is listening age-wise, uh, generationally, but the people I talk to about astrology, like outside of this podcast, outside of this room, they tend to be people who are so young, so much younger than me, people in their 20s, who when they find out they have a podcast, they're like, oh my gosh, Gen Z. Yeah. Gen Z. And they tell me what their chart is, and I'm like, well, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they look at me like I've just like broken their soul open like a fortune cookie, you know. They're fascinated with it. Yes. Which is really interesting because I I don't know how you identify. I identify as solidly Generation X, and we're very, you know, cynical and blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_00 17:20

Millennial, are you not? Oh no. No, no, sorry, I beg your pardon.

SPEAKER_01 17:23

Thank you, but no.

SPEAKER_00 17:26

Generation X, yes, of course.

SPEAKER_01 17:28

But I mean, we're we're a very cynical generation, etc. etc. And we uh like we don't want to be pigeonholed, blah, blah, blah. But but yeah, we come around to Gen Z and they're just like, oh my god, tell me about myself.

SPEAKER_00 17:42

Yeah, like yeah. It's it's it's self-understanding that is that is in demand. Yeah. And hopefully, you know, we're going to uh address that in the next 18 months, right? Yeah, absolutely. Um, yeah, I would I I generally I'd like to think I was generation expert. Honestly, I think I'm a boomer at my age. And um last week, uh a younger person whom I and this young person said to me, Um, Alison, is there perhaps a family computer in your house that you could maybe get access to sometime and and log into? Like for Windows and whatnot. And I looked at them, I thought, what are you talking about? And I said, No, I've got an Apple, I've got an Apple Mac and I'm doing this and that. Oh, it's like, but the assumption was that I don't know how to text, nothing. I don't know anything about computers. I don't know. And I said, if you're still using Windows, you're in the dark, you need to come into the light. Because I was on a roll by that stage.

SPEAKER_01 18:33

It's hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 18:34

And I thought, this is the perception you see. Where are you going with this? Yeah, I I couldn't even understand the question to start. I thought, I found a computer with windows. I thought, who the hell has well, who has that? But anyway, and because we're all Apple here, aren't we?

SPEAKER_01 18:47

And um I thought, but the Windows computer that I work for work, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 18:51

Yeah, well I've got one in there as well if we're stolar fire on because yeah, yeah. But the point being that the perception is that someone my age hasn't a clue and can't text because their mother can't text. Oh, so you've got this thing going through. So hopefully, um I don't know where I was going with that, but the point being a generational thing. Yeah, it's a generational thing, it's the perception of the other generations, what we think of them, and they think the same of us that does she even know how to to to open a computer in Windows? And I'm thinking you're gonna talk about Facebook next, aren't you? You know, really I'm not that yeah, I don't do that. Yeah, but that is the perception. So hopefully um, I would like to put a positive spin on this, I wouldn't say in this 18 in this 18-month period when Uranus is prominent here, yeah, the our podcast, which is electronic, it's computer generated, it's talking about astrology, hopefully we can thrive because we're trying our very best here, aren't we?

SPEAKER_01 19:47

We are really I've got some really cool symbolism to actually throw at you.

SPEAKER_00 19:51

Okay, sounds great.

SPEAKER_01 19:52

Oh, yeah, yeah. So since we're talking about the um the Aquarius Leo, uh nodal uh axis, and it is considered an axis if we're talking about the oppositions, and the south node is in Leo, and the north node is in Aquarius, or the the you know, the other way around, as we would say. So this is a time about challenging hierarchies, embracing your community, imagining uh an innovative and exciting future, which is Aquarius, right? There's so much science fiction, and I'm a I'm a huge science fiction fan, I know you are as well, because I've thrown out a couple of weird star uh Star Trek references, and you've been like right there, like absorbing it. So I know I know that we're speaking the same language here. So let's throw out a couple of movie references that are that are like right there along this axis. Okay. Okay. So the matrix.

SPEAKER_00 20:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 20:43

The matrix starts out as it's it's the ultimate, like, you know, this guy he senses there's something like not quite right in his world. This is Leo, this is like he's the one, quote unquote. That's so Leo, right? But the deeper story is about if you're awakening to this energy where you're interconnected literally with a matrix of other souls, and then you end up fighting for their collective liberation, which is Aquarius all the way. Yeah. So let's interesting. Right. So a matrix one, yeah, the two, the two sequels, whatever, like you know, let's just forget about those. Yeah, but I mean, yeah, it also the matrix definitely and wasn't his name, Leo?

SPEAKER_00 21:20

Neo. Neo.

SPEAKER_01 21:21

Neo. Right. Almost Leo, yeah. Uh apparently Dune, which I've I've not seen the new uh the Dune two, whatever I've seen the first one, et cetera, et cetera. Um, but yeah, it starts out and it's basically a cautionary tale about about hero worship and messiahs and charismatic leaders, which is like Leo gone wrong. And so it's about right, and it's about like turning that around. And Star Wars, same way. It's about like, you know, the the Jedi is is you're tapping into this underlying uh the collective unconscious, right? Yes, and you're collecting the force, really. And but you're you know, maybe you're the one true, you know, whatever the the Jedi. Right, exactly. But there's this Whole network that you're tapping into and you're bringing everyone along. It's never just about this one guy is gonna exactly it's about you're bringing along your entire the community, the rebels, the whatever, and you're you're overthrowing the the forces of that are holding you down. And I've been watching Severance, I've been re-watching it because of course Severance is amazing. There's there's a whole thing about ego versus community and about that's Leo Aquarius. Very much so, yeah. V for Vendetta, similar, individual identity dissolving into a movement. Uh, the children of men, society is broken, and and and greed and you know, the the desire to just kind of like be selfish and whatnot is overcome by all of a sudden, oh, no one's having children anymore. Wait, what? You know, right, right? And so it's about like how do we reclaim society from the embers of selfishness, which is fascinating. Hunger games, similar, like I I'm not a huge fan of Hunger Games, but but it's like you have this one person who's kind of the symbol because she's lionized, lionized Leo, right? But really, it's all about bringing your community forward and and feeding the masses.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

Um, so I mean there's so many science fiction things that are about Squid Games?

SPEAKER_00 23:18

Are you aware on that?

SPEAKER_01 23:19

I love Squid Games, I was obsessed with okay. Squid Game got me through several uh very difficult dental appointments. I had a lot of dental work done like like a year or two ago. Yeah, and I basically watched Squid Game the entire time. I mean, we're talking like three-hour sessions in in the chair, and I watched I watched Squid Game the entire time. Yeah, it's a it's a great show. I really love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a crazy I know you don't really know what to think about that. Yeah, I mean, because there can be only one, right?

SPEAKER_00 23:50

To me, that's going backwards. It's we're all good, we're the the community is the Aquarius, but we we need to find the guy, and that's the Leo. One guy.

SPEAKER_01 23:58

Yeah, yeah. It's super interesting.

unknown 24:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:01

I mean, yeah, like there's so much Aquarius is so sci-fi. Like, we can talk about arrival, which is it's all about, I mean, it's all about communication. Arrival is like, it's like the fantasy of like a Virgo. It's like, oh what, I'm a linguist and I'm gonna save society. I'm gonna like save the world by being able to decode this alien language. That's amazing. But at the same time, it's about nonlinear thinking, it's about like expanding your consciousness so that you can kind of understand the past and the future and the present all in one like big circle. And it's like fantastic, which is very anything that that makes you just think differently is is very aquarium, you know.

SPEAKER_00 24:38

And you know that the movie industry itself is Leo. Oh, for sure. Hollywood, it's Leo.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

MGM is the symbol, is the lion.

SPEAKER_00 24:46

The lion.

unknown 24:47

Right.

SPEAKER_00 24:48

Yeah, yeah. Where where they're putting it out there to um there's always a hero, and that has to be the Leo, but we're saving humanity.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

Oh, yeah, the hero is always saving humanity. I mean, if it was just the hero, like that's not, I mean, that's fine. It's cool, rocky, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

But so would we expect some good uh shows coming through, a couple of good movies coming out in this period, this 18-month period? Definitely with the same themes, right? The underpinning themes of Leo and Aquarius, because these are not Pisces Virgo themes at all. No, it's true.

SPEAKER_01 25:17

Yeah, I mean, we've talked about Pisces Virgo um sci-fi. 18 months ago. Yeah, and and honestly, um uh what's it called? The um WALL-E. Oh yeah. That was the biggest, you know, Pisces Virgo for me, yeah, as a Virgo. Like, I'm like, yeah, that Wally is so Virgo, you know, he's just like, oh, the planet, everyone's evacuated and they just left this trash heap, and it's for him to clean up. Yeah. Virgo. Virgo, for sure. But yet he ends up saving the you know planet, which is fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 25:45

Um, yeah, like yeah, yeah. I think it's it's going to be because it's nodal, these 18 months, it's going to be it's gonna be a subtle background theme. There will be more prominent things happening as Jupiter moves into Leo and this and that. But um, if you are aware of it and realize that Uranus is in this position, yeah, and this is background noise, yeah. Um, you can lean into it and we will do so with our podcast because this chart is is helpful for us as podcasters to um bring it bring it home almost.

SPEAKER_01 26:18

Totally.

SPEAKER_00 26:19

Yeah. Okay, so let's just have a quick look at some of the main themes of the North Node in Aquarius. So we're going to the North Node is where you push forward. Yeah. Um, the North Node in Aquarius fears but should push towards being humble. Oh yes. So Aquarius is an air sign concerned with groups, communities, innovation, technology, and the future. Yeah. While Leo seeks personal recognition, Aquarius seeks collective progress. Yeah. During this nodal period, growth comes through participation with others, sharing ideas, and contributing to something larger than yourself.

SPEAKER_01 26:55

Totally. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 26:57

So networking, this has got to be a key here. The North Node in Aquarius encourages people to step back from personal drama, that's Leo, and consider how they can serve the wider community. Yeah. There is a call to become more objective and less attached to individual praise or approval. New opportunities may arise through friendships, networks, clubs, associations, and social causes. Yeah. New connections. Aquarius is associated with originality and independent thinking. During this transit, there is encouragement to develop your unique perspective without needing constant validation from others. That's Leah.

SPEAKER_01 27:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:38

New connections may be formed through technology, online communities, scientific interests, and humanitarian activities.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

Totally.

SPEAKER_00 27:46

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 27:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:47

So the challenge of the North Node in Aquarius is that it can feel uncomfortable to move away from the spotlight and into a more equal role within a group.

SPEAKER_01 27:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:57

There may be fears about fitting in, being accepted, or contributing something worthwhile to so people hesitate to do it.

SPEAKER_01 28:05

Right. Or or or sounding weird.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:08

You know, I I I have a different dream. I have a different way of speaking, I have a different way of thinking. I, you know, feel free to speak up because you will help others if you speak up, regardless of how uncomfortable you feel.

SPEAKER_00 28:20

That's right. And growth occurs when you willingly share your talents for the benefits of the collective. So the question the North Node in Aquarius asks is how can my individual gifts help create a better future for everyone? Yeah. Right. And then if we look at the South Node in Leo, the fallback. Um the South Node in Leo falls back on arrogance. Yeah. Um, Leo is a fire sign associated with creativity, self-expression, leadership, and personal recognition. The South Node in Leo suggests familiar patterns related to seeking attention, approval, or admiration from others. These are qualities that may feel comfortable because they have already been developed.

SPEAKER_01 29:08

Right.

SPEAKER_00 29:08

So it is happening.

SPEAKER_01 29:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:10

Uh the puffed off ego. During this nodal cycle, there can be a tendency to focus too heavily on personal importance or to believe that your way is the only way. Pride vanity and the desire to be special may become stumbling blocks if taken too far. Situations may arise which reveal where ego has become attached to outcomes. And we all do when you see yourself doing it, know you've got this is this is what's happening. So what you need now, the South Node in Leo is not asking you to abandon creativity, leadership, or self-expression. Rather, it suggests that these talents have already been cultivated and can now be used in the service of a wider purpose. The challenge is to avoid being coming trapped in the need for recognition or applause. Generosity. At its best, I believe the South Node in Leo provides confidence, courage, generosity, and warmth. These gifts can be shared with groups and communities through the balancing influence of the North Note in Aquarius. So the South Note question in Leo in Leo is can I contribute my talents without needing to be the center of attention? I don't know. I don't know if I can, but um we'll it will it will it will come to you. Yeah, it will come to us. Yeah. But we have to like where does it take one for the team or whatever they say? We do. Who doesn't?

SPEAKER_01 30:41

Dare I dare I throw out one more science fiction conference. But for all mankind, if you haven't seen it, oh my gosh, if anyone isn't watching it, hasn't watched it, oh my gosh, one of my favorite shows of all time. It uh season five just wrapped up. And uh if there was a bit of a gap between season four and season five, and I have watched it without my partner, and I was just obsessed on it, and uh I finally got him to like watch it and now he's seen the entire thing. We watched season five together. And it it is all about that because it starts out in the 1960s. Basically, the entire premise, no spoilers, is about what if Mar uh the Russia had beat the US to the moon. And so the first episode is basically like it's the moon landing, it's the moon landing, we're all watching the moon landing, but Russia gets there first. Oh my gosh, what will happen, right? And so it's all about how the the spirit of competition forces everybody to to kind of step up their game and how much farther we could get if if we didn't just kind of like throw that by the wayside and focus on other things throughout the 70s and 80s and 90s and every uh season skips forward about eight to ten years. So you get these like crazy brain dumps at the beginning of each season of like what's happened over the last eight years, who won the presidency, what you know, who's died, who's lived, and what are we focusing on? And it's and of course now they've colonized Mars, you know, spoiler alert, blah, blah, blah. But it's so cool. And it's just, it's just a I I love alternate future sci-fi. Okay. And it's so aquarian, but it's also so Leo because I mean, who is gonna push forward for that? It's not the Aquarians, they're the ones with pencil pushers, they're the ones making all the, you know, making sure nobody dies on the way to Mars, right? Yes, yes. The Leo is the one who's like piloting the ship. They're the ones who are gonna take the risks, right? They're the ones who want the you know, to be on the cover of Time magazine of like this guy did this, you know, for all mankind, literally for all mankind.

SPEAKER_00 32:34

Like that guy who who just did the Artemis going to the moon, right? The the actual captain, whatever his name was, Commander Soto. You just look at him, you know he's an American, right? He's just got that look about him, right? Everyone else is the diversity, but there's the guy.

SPEAKER_01 32:47

Exactly. Well, that's Joel Kinneman in the show. It's Joel Kinneman. I mean, we all love him, and he's fantastic. I yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:53

Wow, yeah. No, it's great. It's if there's a lot going on here, and um, it can pass you by if you're not paying attention as an astrologer, but we are trying to pay attention, Arwen and I.

SPEAKER_01 33:04

And unless you're touching it's it's touching something in your chart, maybe it will pass you by, but if you uh have significant placements in the lower Aquarius, pay attention to this. Or do your Taurus.

SPEAKER_00 33:14

Which is I do, because this is what this means is now that this South Node is going to hit all of my Leoplanets and my ascendant, and it'll cross your mid-heaven as well. So there's quite a lot going on there. Or having to face things from the past and in, and um, it's about, well, just because we did this 20 years ago and this we did a turkey at Christmas, are we doing one this year? Right. And it's that kind of thing, and I'm thinking, I don't even did the pan I cooked the turkey in because I will never do it again. Yeah, you know what I mean? I totally do. So um I'm finding um that the you know, uh obviously we're not there yet, but uh it will be happening in July. But it the idea of getting rid of stuff that is baggage is baggage. It's South Node holding you back.

SPEAKER_01 33:59

Maybe it doesn't anymore. Maybe that thing that you've been keeping that you think is like saying so much about you, it's like, well, why is that still in your closet or your cupboard or your storage block?

SPEAKER_00 34:08

All the stuff. Whereas it's in you already.

SPEAKER_01 34:10

You think, yeah, it's saying something about you, but nobody sees it because you don't wear it anymore, you never use it anymore. The stuff I took out for something else.

SPEAKER_00 34:18

I I've been yeah, it it's going to be I think there's going to be a big purge in this period for me to I've got things in drawers that have been there since I moved in here 12 years ago, and I'm thinking, why have why do I open this drawer that's still full of stuff? Yeah. And um it's not minimalism, but it's it's no, but it's it's one of those things where it's baggage. Yeah and stuff has energy, so that's where it really does.

SPEAKER_01 34:41

Yeah, it it says something about us, but yeah, maybe something new will say something even better.

SPEAKER_00 34:48

Well, hopefully.

SPEAKER_01 34:48

We make room for something new.

SPEAKER_00 34:50

Make new room for something new, some fresh new technology, which I've been looking at. And um, I was talking to you earlier. I definitely want to invest more in some microphones, and I'm probably gonna get a new camera as well, but I'm pussy footing around because they're not cheap. Yeah, but uh that's where I want to put my energy. That's my future. Yeah, yeah. And I'm sure it's the same for you, you know, with things that you want to get.

SPEAKER_01 35:12

Yeah. I threw I threw away some old wrist guards that weren't doing me any favors. Gotta get some new wrist guards for my skating.

SPEAKER_00 35:20

You do, you need the industrial strength ones, it seems.

SPEAKER_01 35:22

I do. Yeah. Spoiler alert.

SPEAKER_00 35:25

Wow. Okay, so we have been talking about the new nodal access shift as the nodes move into Aquarius and Leo. This is happening in July 2026. They'll be around for 18 months. We've been discussing what it means and what the actual chart looks like. And I encourage you to click through to the blog post. There's a link in the podcast show notes. Click through so you can see the chart that we're actually talking about and what it is that we're actually looking into here at this point. So if you have found value in this episode, please do consider sharing it with anybody who'd be interested. Make sure that you're going to uh give us a five-star review and um a like and a share. And what was the other one? Support the show. Oh, yeah. Do support the show. You can you can help us and support the show. And and it all we appreciate every one of you who are supporting us now because it's um it does cost quite a bit to keep this podcast. It really does. I know, right? Yeah. And uh we do appreciate you. Make sure you're getting our newsletter and you can sign up at starzology.com forwardstroke newsletter, and then make sure you're getting Arwen's newsletter, and you can find Arwen at I'm at Ms. Pink.net, M S P I N K, and I send out my weekly newsletter every Saturday. Yeah, that's fantastic. Yeah. So, Arwen, thank you so much for joining us again today and for this discussion about the nodal axis changing science.

SPEAKER_01 36:43

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 36:43

It's been great. And to our listeners, thank you so much, and we will see you next time.

SPEAKER_01 36:48

See you next time.